Brenda 00:00:01 Welcome to your yes, build life. I'm your host, Brenda Winkle, educator, healer, speaker, guide and fierce advocate for your. Yes, I help sensitive and successful men and women find, reclaim and live from their full embodied. Yes, through empowering you to understand your energetic hygiene, establish healthy boundaries, and heal your nervous system, you'll be able to create your yes filled life and move through your days with more freedom, more ease, and more joy. You'll hear inspiring stories of people who found their full bodied, yes thought leaders who pursued their own dreams and are living life on their terms, and learn new ways to find the courage, joy, ease and freedom to more fully step into your yes filled life. Saying no to the good so you can say yes to the great. Join me on this journey to discover your yes filled life. Whether you're looking to break free from the golden handcuffs, start a new business, find your dream job, or simply live with more intention and mindfulness, I've got you covered.
Brenda 00:01:15 Let's explore the possibilities together and make your dreams a reality. Ready? Let's do this. Let's get you to your yes filled life. There you go. Hey, Jill. Hi, Brenda. Thank you so much for joining me today. Thank you for inviting me. This is a great opportunity. I'm so excited to have you. So we're just going to kick it off with a question which I love to ask people, which is what is one thing you either did or did not do that brought you to your yes filled life?
Jill 00:01:52 What I did, I believe, is I figured out that that I'm important and that I needed to really kind of be good with myself. Otherwise I wouldn't be good for anybody else. And so I really looked at my career at the time. I looked at, you know, where I wanted to be in, you know, five, ten years. And it wasn't where I was currently at. I wanted to do something bigger and on a grander scale and have it be in my power and what was what felt good for me.
Jill 00:02:33 So that's that's what I did. And then that's how I found my yes, filled life.
Brenda 00:02:39 I love that. And so, you know, what you're pointing to is that there had to be some changes that were made. And I'm curious, as you got ready to make those changes, was that comfortable?
Jill 00:02:53 Oh, no, not comfortable at all. I was, I was very much about. Pardon me? About people pleasing and not letting anybody down. And I wanted to put my hat into every single thing that I was doing, and I wasn't doing anything for me. And so I had to change that, you know, I had to start looking at myself and saying, Jill, are you happy at what you're doing? and I wasn't at the time, it was, it was fulfilling, but it was changing too much and I was losing me. I was losing who I was musically, spiritually, professionally, personally. It just felt like I was slip slips slipping. And I decided I needed to, take an early retirement from my career as a teacher and, and step into something else.
Jill 00:03:52 I needed a new chapter. And so that change was really hard to do because I'd been a music teacher for 25 years. So, you know, it was it was difficult. It was kind of like a divorce, almost.
Brenda 00:04:07 Oh, that resonates for me. I felt exactly the same way. In fact, we went to college together.
Jill 00:04:12 Yes we did.
Brenda 00:04:13 We became music teachers together at the same place at Chadron State College, which is.
Jill 00:04:19 So great.
Brenda 00:04:20 It's so great. It's so great. And so when you talked about people pleasing, I often think that nobody sets out in life to be like, I want to people, please, I don't think that's anybody's goal. Maybe I'm wrong, but it's so sneaky how it shows up, and especially if you're in a career that service based, whether it's like nursing education physicians, any time that you're working with the public, it's really easy to become a people pleaser because that's kind of the expectation. Do you think that that was part of what played into it for you?
Jill 00:04:57 Yeah, I really do, because, I mean, I can look back to one of my first jobs.
Jill 00:05:03 I was a grocery carryout person in high school and the first part of college. And I remember in the training, they're like, the customer is you're the last person that customer is going to see in that store, so you need to be just right on top of it. And that resonated. But at the same time, it grew into, how can I help you? What can I do for you? What do you need? Can I do this for you? And that then carried over to everything else that I did after that it was, oh, I can get right on that. I have skill sets. I can help with that one. Oh, let me take care of that. And it just I was double, triple booking myself into things. I was signing up for every committee. So yeah that's really what happened. Was the people pleasing just took over.
Brenda 00:05:55 Yeah. That definitely is partly that relates to my journey. I mean my journey was a little bit different because there were some other components at play relationships and, and different things.
Brenda 00:06:05 But you know I do think that that we're socialized especially in the United States, especially as women, to be carers and caregivers and caretakers at our own expense. And then we're kind of and I'm going to use the word really intentionally, kind of celebrated for doing that. Not enough where you actually feel like you're being rewarded, like there's not actually a payoff, but there's definitely like bragging rights that go into overworking, over giving, over committing.
Jill 00:06:35 Absolutely.
Brenda 00:06:36 So you finished your career as a music teacher and then what?
Jill 00:06:43 Right before I retired, I actually started looking into. Well, and I thought about it a while before that, too, you know. What do I want to do? I didn't want to leave music. I love music, I love that that vibration that that I don't know the word. Is that just that satisfaction of hearing a song that just makes you feel good. And I thought, what can I do in a world right now where everybody's just kind of, you know, all over the place? And I saw this thing for Sound Healing on online.
Jill 00:07:19 I was like, sound healing. Oh, that sounds fun. And I looked into it a little bit more and it was, you know, singing bowls and tuning forks and instruments and, you know, just feeling that vibration, which if you've heard a really great song, you feel that just in your gut, it just feels wonderful and you're like, oh, I feel so good. So I was like, I'm going to get into that. I'm going to see how that how that works. And so I signed up for one class and it just started a whole thing. I yeah. So I wanted to be a sound healer. I didn't know exactly how that was going to work, but I wanted to share that love of that musical vibration that are, you know, to people. And so I just jumped right in.
Brenda 00:08:14 I love that. Okay. So you're building this this career, this second career as a sound healer. And at the time, you were still in your teaching job.
Brenda 00:08:24 Is that correct?
Jill 00:08:26 I was for about six months.
Brenda 00:08:28 Yeah. what was that like, being in the the teaching job, the place where you had come to be a really specific identity as you're trying to recreate this new identity as somebody who's doing something outside of what you had known.
Jill 00:08:47 I was super excited, but at the same time I kept thinking about like, you know, how, how do I do this? Is it a fear of failure? Is it, you know, because I was like, I've always had to follow a certain thing to be an educator. And this was so at the time, loosey goosey open. I was a little afraid of that. Like what if I get out there and I do this and then all of a sudden I just kind of fall on my face. And so to go from, you know, during the day I'm working and it's all scheduled out and I have, you know, all the things. And then I come home at night and I it's like the trip home, I start thinking about, oh my gosh, am I doing the right thing? Should I be doing this? Oh no, I'm going to retire me.
Jill 00:09:35 You know, it's all those emotions. But once I got home and started doing the studying for all of my modules, I was like, wow, it felt so good. And I thought, you know what? I can. I can make the decisions for me and my own business. I don't really have to answer to anybody else. I don't have to take care of all these other entities. It's just my thing that I get to take care of. So it felt weird because then I go back to school and it would be, you know, you have to do these, these, you know, this, this, this, all these steps. And then I'd come home and be like free, you know. So it was it felt weird. But I was just really excited.
Brenda 00:10:27 To be done. Amazing. Oh yeah. Yeah, totally. And you know, I think to your point, like the freedom is the best and the worst part, right? It's the best part. Because if you've done a career that was very linear, that was very time bound, then becoming an entrepreneur or doing anything different means you don't have that structure, which feels really exciting for a while.
Brenda 00:10:49 And then you're like, oh wait, I actually need a little bit of structure, maybe a little routine or or something. Yeah, yeah. So you and I came to work together like a year and something ago. And what were you feeling like when that happened?
Jill 00:11:07 So that was it was right after retirement. And, you know, I had been following you on Facebook and I was getting emails on your, yes, field life, your podcast, all the all the cool things. And what resonated with me was your story about the right before you left and became what you are now and you know, the concerts and the scheduling and all the stuff. And I had a lot of admiration for that. And I kept thinking, gosh, I want to connect with Brenda. And and then you had I think it was a one of your, yes. To me.
Brenda 00:11:45 yeah.
Jill 00:11:46 Sessions. And I thought I'm going to try it because it just sounded really good and I was hooked. I'm like, this is what I've been looking for.
Jill 00:11:55 That adds on to the things I'm studying for being a sound healer and how do I put a business together, and how do I have that confidence to just do what I want to do and not have any, roadblocks that I could just go around stuff that may have jumped in the way because it was it was my yes. Felt like this is what I'm going to do. I'm going to be a healer. And so I was very inspired, and it just started with that. And then I started up with the first session with you to work with you weekly.
Brenda 00:12:34 Yeah. Well, it's been so cool, number one, to reconnect after all these years. That's been like my favorite part, but mine too. You know, the thing that I just admire so much and I'm seeing myself in you in your journey, but getting to witness the confidence with which you're stepping into this new life is so cool, because you are showing up differently in your life. You're showing up differently on social media, and you're taking risks in a really cool way.
Brenda 00:13:11 And it's so much fun just to witness and watch. And I find myself feeling like, oh, this is cool. She's going to be doing this. I want to do that too. So it's been really very rewarding just to witness and watch. And I find myself benefiting from being alongside you.
Jill 00:13:33 Well that's fantastic. Thank you.
Brenda 00:13:34 You're welcome. Yeah. So one of the things that you've been working on is a special project. That comes out in January. Do you want to talk about that?
Jill 00:13:43 I do, I do so within all the the learning of all the sound healing and all the stuff. And, I actually, am certified through life changing energy and, and I'm going to drop a name. Vicky Gold is the one who is the, the facilitator and leader of all of this. And she put out, a message through social media, through our group and said, I'm looking for people who would like to be a co-author of a book that speaks to how you became a healer.
Jill 00:14:23 And it it was like, oh, that would be really fun. And I kind of just scrolled on like, yeah, it sounds fun, but okay, I'll just, you know, and then I thought about it and I was like, oh, that could be really, really cool. And then I was like, oh, I don't know. I'm not a writer. I've never been a writer. I, you know, I've written poetry or, you know, school stuff, but I've never actually written about something and specifically myself to put myself out there. It was kind of a scary thing. And then a few days went by and I saw the, the, the post on it again, and I was like, you know what? And it was late at night. It was probably 11:00 at night. And I said, you know what? I'm gonna do it. So I signed up, filled out the application, sent it in, and went, oh, I don't know.
Jill 00:15:14 I don't know if I can accept it, I don't know. And she only needed 50, 50 people to do a chapter for the book. And so a few days went by and kind of forgot about it. And then it kind of dawned on me like, oh, I haven't heard from them. And finally I hear back and I'm accepted to do this book. And I was like, oh, wow, you know, and it's super fast. So started back in September. I believe she came up with the book idea in August. And so now through all of the things I will be getting back my, final edits or my first edits for, for the grammar part of it. And then on the 15th, that's it. That it goes, goes to, do print and all the other things, the magic behind the scenes, I guess. but it's called the call within Finding Purpose and Sparking Transformation, which really speaks to me.
Brenda 00:16:18 It's a great title.
Jill 00:16:20 Yeah. So we have 52 authors and, right now it's just kind of, you know, advertising.
Jill 00:16:29 Get ready. It's coming, it's coming. January 4th is our book launch through Amazon and you can get it for just $0.99, which is awesome. and so that's we're going to have a little party with that kind of talking about, you know, seeing how it gets, you know, best seller list is what we're aiming for. And I'm sure we'll get there. and then in later January, we'll have a book writing or a book signing, ceremony and celebration in LA. so that'll be really fun, too.
Brenda 00:17:07 So good. So in the last two years, you've retired from teaching open to sound healing business, and you'll be a published author. Correct? Yeah. That is. That's crazy. It's really, really cool. So what do you think? If you had to boil it down to, like, 1 or 2 things or maybe three that you either started or stopped doing to allow yourself to step into this new version because it is about allowing, right? Its permissioning yourself to follow the nudge.
Brenda 00:17:36 What do you think you you maybe started or stopped doing?
Jill 00:17:44 I wow, it's kind of a combination because I stopped kind of holding myself back. Obviously, from what I just said about signing up to do this book, you know, oh, I'm not I'm not good enough. I, I'm not a writer. I can't do this. I can't, can't, can't I stop saying I can't. That would be one huge thing. and it became I can and I will. And so that what I started doing is just saying yes this is what you can do. It was a positive self-talk. It was yes, you can do this and you have the proof right there. I had to keep, you know, journal a lot and I write down things and I I'll draw little pictures and just try to kind of get it all out on paper, and then I'll go back and look and I'm like, wow, that's how I thought, you know, X amount of time ago. And now wow, this is how I'm feeling.
Jill 00:18:43 And it's fantastic. It just it feels so good. I feel like I'm I stand a little taller. I, I have way more confidence when it comes to meeting new people. I have, you know, I, I seek that out. And I think people are also very, guided to me as well. And I'm learning that too. So. But yeah, I stopped saying I can't. that's so good.
Brenda 00:19:13 Yeah. You can. Absolutely. You can learn how to do something. You can get support to do something. Absolutely. If you want to do something, you can. Yes. Yeah. And I'm talking to our listeners right now, like if you have this self-doubt or this this talk, that would be a great thing to shift.
Jill 00:19:31 Absolutely.
Brenda 00:19:32 Yeah. So there's a couple of things that I want to really highlight. You were successful as a teacher. And yeah, the changes that you made were not because there was any lack of success. You had the success. And also you felt like you wanted to do something more.
Jill 00:19:52 Right?
Brenda 00:19:53 Yeah. And that's so common for many of us, especially, you know, in our 40s and 50s, to begin to feel like, I want something more. And there is a school of thought that sort of shames that a little bit. And of course, I would naturally reject that. And yet there's something for so many of us that we have to really work through the shame of wanting more. And we talk a lot about this on the podcast with different guests, like how they got over the feeling of, I know that I want to do more, and it's not what I'm doing right now, and it doesn't make what I'm doing right now bad, but I want more. How did you permission yourself?
Jill 00:20:36 Well, it came from a lot of different directions. I a lot of. Wow. It's kind of hard to put it into words. It it didn't happen overnight, I guess is what I'm trying to say. It wasn't just, you know, I woke up one day and went, oh, I'm not going to do this anymore.
Jill 00:20:54 It was every time something would happen that kind of made me feel sticky and yucky. I had to really think about, well, what do I want to do to make it better? You know what? What am I going to do about this? And I loved teaching. You know, I got into teaching because of the kids and sharing music with with these young minds. And, you know, they would come back after they'd left elementary and, you know, say, hey, we you are an inspiration to me. I'm becoming a music teacher or, you know, I'm doing this or that with with music. And it felt really good. but I just wanted more. It was just a rut, if you will, just doing the same thing. I go home, go to work, go home, go to work, go home. And then I would have, you know, oodles of concerts and things like that. And I love the performing, but I start getting tired. I'm like, there's something else that's not eating at me, but it's calling me to do.
Jill 00:22:06 And it was I wanted to break out of this little four walls that I was in. I wanted to expand and reach people all over because it's kids get a lot of that. As kids in education. It's awesome. They get to grow. But then once we leave school, it's we don't have that as much, if that makes any sense. And so to have someone who can do that for an adult and say, oh, well, come hang out, let's, you know, let's just relax. We do so much as adults and adulting is hard. I'm just going to say it, it's hard sometimes we just want to build a fort in our living room and not leave. But, I wanted people to be able to take time for them, even if it's just for a half hour. and feel good and just feel like, oh, okay, this is what it's like to just relax. every muscle, every organ in their body and just relax.
Brenda 00:23:17 And so this is a really personal thing for you.
Brenda 00:23:19 Because learning to relax has kept you healthy.
Jill 00:23:23 It has.
Brenda 00:23:24 And so I want to kind of bring that in and saying I do the work that I do because it's what I most needed. Like literally, I needed to find a way to stop people pleasing so that I could step into my own gifts. And that's a big part of what I do, is I help people to stop people pleasing so that they can step into their gifts. And you needed that relaxation piece. And so what did learning to relax help you do?
Jill 00:23:53 It really helped me get focused. If I could relax, I felt like my mind would open up a little more and I could really decide things instead of going, oh, I have 30s decide this right now. Go. That's the life of a teacher, right? Exactly. And, you know, it's like, oh, I can I can kind of sleep on that. You know? Okay, maybe I don't have to decide on this right this second. Maybe I can, you know, go do something for a little bit.
Jill 00:24:27 I'll come back to it. And I felt that I could do that without judgment and without stress. And the stress was it was really great. And then to be able to relax, it just felt like, oh, I can make this decision and I don't feel bad about it. And it was great. So relaxation was a big part, you know, come to your own little place where you can just sit and or lay down or, you know, whatever and just relax. So that was. Yeah. And I want others to feel that too. I guess that's kind of where I'm at is, you know, this is what I do to relax. I feel like I'm a better person. I'm a better friend to myself. I'm a, you know, a better wife. I am, you know I'm a stepmother, so I can be a better step mom. I can do all the things that seemed impossible years ago.
Brenda 00:25:32 Absolutely. Because when you're exhausted and depleted, everything feels hard.
Brenda 00:25:37 Yeah. Yeah. So you also have been studying Reiki and you're adding that to the, the different healing modalities. What has Reiki done for you.
Jill 00:25:50 Oh Reiki has been wonderful I, I love the fact that it can, you know, just feel the energy and I can help myself with that energy to just, you know, placing a hand on my heart or, you know, even like with my dogs, if they're freaking out and being weird, I can give a little bit of Reiki to them. And they they kind of stop and go, oh, okay. And then they seem to Just to kind of calm down a little bit. but I love it in the fact that it's such a complement to vibration. Because you are feeling vibration through that energy, through your hands, through touch. it it just takes it deeper I guess is the way I can describe it. It just makes it go deeper into a healing.
Brenda 00:26:44 I love that. That's amazing. So you have been a part of what will become your guest filled life in 2025, and I'm so excited that you're part of that.
Brenda 00:26:55 We're adding like a mastermind component with quarterly roundtables, with everyone who's a part, so we can each bring something, one of our gifts to the table and share. And and I love that element of it. Would you be willing to talk about what your experience this last year has been like for you?
Jill 00:27:14 Oh, yeah. Yeah. like I said, I become a different person, and you kind of spoke to that too, and more confident, I. I kind of have a timeline. I know where I'm going. And you're. Yes. Filled life is. It is just again, I can't come up with the right words for it. It's just amazing. I, I started it feeling like, oh, I don't know if I'm. Am I doing this right? Am I, you know, am I breathing correctly? You know that that was a year plus ago. Now it's like I kind of regulate myself and and you give options of, you know, you want to go deeper.
Jill 00:28:01 You want to just stay right here. I, I've been able to give myself permission to do what I want. For me, it's not okay. As you know, I see for other people in, in this session and and are they? Am I breathing like them? Should I be doing what they're doing? You know it just because that was in my mind in the beginning. I was this constant, you know, thinking about what everyone else was doing in the call. And now I don't feel that way. In fact, I feel so comfortable. And I look forward to that. And I use it outside of our call. I can be sitting and watching a show, or I could be at a family gathering and if I feel something different, I can breathe through it. And it feels great and I just feel very confident. and like, I do have power.
Brenda 00:28:56 Yeah, because you do. Because you do. So I was telling you a story today in our group call that I was having a conversation with somebody who was asking, like, am I doing things wrong that I need this emotional regulation, that I need these skills? Like What? What do I not know? And I was sharing that.
Brenda 00:29:15 That what I had said to this person was that everybody needs self emotional regulation. And either they're using the skills to regulate emotionally, or they're masking it at work and then coming home to numb with overeating, drinking, scrolling, Netflix thing, whatever the case may be. So when you said that you can self-regulate now, what's what's life like now that you're using all of these tools in addition to what you've learned with your sound healing?
Jill 00:29:52 Life is, I guess, because I'm more and more organized. It's more about, what I want to get out of things. I look out at self-care, I guess is something that I look at. And I don't feel like I need to go numb something, you know, if I'm having a stressful day. I don't because I used to do that. I come home and I. I binge watch Netflix or I'd be scrolling on my phone. Me too. And I, I try to not do that. In fact, I don't I will I'm a fiber artist, so I love to crochet and knit and do all that stuff.
Jill 00:30:38 So I will pick up a project and I'll work on that. I'll listen to music. Go sit out on the patio. Do you know, I try to do something that is beneficial for me and making me feel good and healthy. go for a walk. but, yeah, that's, you know, life is more, I guess, easier. It feels easier to be able to self-regulate and know. And I'm getting to know my body more to like if I feel something coming, I will do something to help me get through it instead of just, I'm fine, you know? And and you know, because I was really good at that. Oh. Me too, I know.
Brenda 00:31:26 I was the queen of it. I was like, working that day, that first day of the school year in 2019, when I was doubled over, sitting on a stool with pain because I had a gallstone stuck in the cystic duct of my liver and almost died. But I wasn't going to miss class. I'm fine.
Jill 00:31:40 Yeah.
Brenda 00:31:41 Yeah, yeah, I, I totally get that.
Jill 00:31:44 Well, and that was, you know, that kind of brings up, you know, I'm a cancer survivor, ten plus years now, which is great.
Brenda 00:31:51 Congratulations.
Jill 00:31:52 Thank you. But I remember sitting in the doctor's office and them telling me what was going on, and I looked at my watch, and I. I went, but what about my music program in November? And they were like, Jill. no. You need to have surgery. Like in the next week. You're not going to be able to go do and prepare a big music you know production. That was hard. I you know I was I had cancer but it was like well we'll just take care of that and I'll get back into it. Right. It'll be fine. Yeah. It was clueless I totally know. It's like I gotta take care of me. If something's going on I'm gonna do it. And it's. That's just the bottom line.
Brenda 00:32:39 That's right.
Brenda 00:32:40 And I, I do think that for many of us it's a learned skill to take care of ourselves. I was like you. I was in the emergency room waiting for scans, and I was on the phone with different people trying to coordinate an audition that was supposed to happen. And I look back at that now and I'm thinking, wow.
Jill 00:33:00 Well, what were you thinking?
Brenda 00:33:03 But I was I was like, all in it. I gotta call this person and that person because these people are coming in to audition at this time and blah, blah, blah. And you know what? Yeah, the hardest thing to to realize it was very painful at the time, but it's a lesson that literally changed my life was I'm I was telling myself that I had to be the one to do all the things, and they replaced me within an hour.
Jill 00:33:31 Wow.
Brenda 00:33:32 Now they didn't like they didn't give out my job. But that.
Jill 00:33:35 Right.
Brenda 00:33:35 But they found somebody to cover the auditions within an hour, and I had told myself that it was essential that I couldn't miss.
Brenda 00:33:43 And it took an hour. Yeah. And when I realized that, I was like, wow, I just put my life on the line and it was like two phone calls later and they had it covered.
Jill 00:33:55 Yeah. And that's, you know, I think now I'm like, okay, if there's something that I need to do, sorry, I can't come to this or I can't, You know, I have to change my schedule because something like, you know, something has come down and I need to do this, and, and or you want to. Exactly. Or, you know, hey, and, thanks for that, but I don't want to go over. Yeah, exactly. But I don't want to. So, you know, I feel that it's easier to do that and say, well, that just doesn't work for me. And it's not being mean or rude. It's just it's what works for me.
Brenda 00:34:34 And it's kinder in the long run. It really is kinder because people feel our energy if we show up and we don't want to be someplace they know.
Jill 00:34:43 Yes they do. That makes it worse I think.
Brenda 00:34:47 Oh I think so too. Because then you've also self abandoned and people still know that you self abandoned and then you're not showing up as your best self. And off to the races in a negative cycle you go. So how can people work with you. What are what are some of the things that that you offer that they might be able to connect with you on?
Jill 00:35:08 So what I've been doing in the last year or so is I. I've held a sound baths like once a month. I'm currently at two different, residences. So now I'm in my California place. our main house is in Colorado. So there I had a yoga studio where I would hold sound, meditations on Sunday mornings, once a month. And that worked out really well. I'm looking to do even more than just group work. I'd love to have one on one. you know, small, intimate groups. I can come out to someone's home. it's really open ended.
Jill 00:35:51 I'm. I would love to do just about anything. I also want, in January, I'm going to start online so people get to come and, you know, experience it from the comfort of their home. It can be I mean, it is just as, healing and and nourishing as if you were here in person. so that's kind of where I'm at right now. Amazing.
Brenda 00:36:19 So and how can they connect with you? Where can they find you.
Jill 00:36:22 So you can find me on Facebook at It's under I have a couple of them purple frog vibrations and and sound and, you can find me there. You can also find me on Instagram. And that's a purple underscore. Frog underscore sounds. And find me there. Or you can give me an email. And that's purple frog sounds at gmail.com.
Brenda 00:36:54 Beautiful, beautiful. And, I talked to you about this when we were driving out to Long Beach, but I'd love to have you come do some sound at our retreats and maybe at some of my online events.
Brenda 00:37:05 Because you're right. Energy has no walls, so you don't have to be in the physical space to benefit from the sound.
Jill 00:37:11 Right. Yeah. I would love that. That would be so fun.
Brenda 00:37:15 That'd be fun. You know, I'm hosting another yes to me in January, and I don't have the dates memorized to be able to rattle them off my tongue, but that would be really fun to bring you in and said a breath drop in one day we'll do sound.
Jill 00:37:28 Yeah, I would love that. That would be so exciting.
Brenda 00:37:31 Let's do it. That sounds amazing. So as you've really carved out this new life, you have the schedule that you want. You have the flexibility to have the the two city life, Colorado and California. What do you think you would want to say to a former version of you or to a listener right now that's thinking, I wonder if this is possible for me.
Jill 00:37:57 I would say to that person or my past self. It is possible and you can do it.
Jill 00:38:05 It's just taking that first step. The first step is the hardest part. After that, it just it's going to go the way you want it to. You just have to start walking.
Brenda 00:38:18 That's right. It's the decision. Yeah. The decision to put yourself first is the hardest decision to make. But everything comes together after that.
Jill 00:38:27 Absolutely.
Brenda 00:38:29 Oh, Jill. Thank you. Thank you for being here today and sharing your beautiful self with all of us.
Jill 00:38:34 Thank you. Brenda.
Brenda 00:38:36 All right. I'll put everything in the show notes. Go give Jill a follow on Facebook on Instagram and send her an email. And then, Jill and I are going to coordinate and you can go to the yes to me page and figure out which day Jill's going to be doing some sound on, and you can come join us and we'll see you then. Thank you Jill.
Jill 00:38:55 Thank you.
