Brenda (00:00:01) - Hey, CC.
CC (Crystal) (00:00:03) - Hey, hey. What's happening?
Brenda (00:00:05) - Oh my gosh, I am so excited for this conversation. I've been looking forward to it for like a month at least.
CC (Crystal) (00:00:12) - At least for sure. Yes! I was so excited to see it on my calendar too. It's time to get into it.
Brenda (00:00:17) - Oh, let's get into it. So this is actually the first time we met, but it's not because, I know that we've been together in other lifetimes for sure. That much is clear. But then also we had this, this WhatsApp voice noting thing that we were doing for a while, and the connection and the clarity that I felt from you was just like the best.
CC (Crystal) (00:00:41) - Yes. Yes, we would definitely were, hitting off on many, many levels there with the sound and then our own voices and then the people that we know in common and so forth and so on. So I'm so excited for today to happen for sure.
Brenda (00:00:53) - Me too. So when I think about voice, I was acquired writer for 26 years.
Brenda (00:00:59) - And so the voice is something that I really think about. And I've noticed a change in my own voice since I started really doing a deep dive into energy work. And I would love to hear what you think about voice and the vibration, and I'll just leave it there.
CC (Crystal) (00:01:18) - Okay. My goodness, that's such a that's such a huge, powerful subject. well, I guess I'll start with my relationship to sound in general and then maybe work into voice as well. for me, I'm actually partially deaf 60% loss in this year. And so I have a whole inquiry around, specialties and, you know, the accommodation that the body will do to make up for losses and, deficiencies and other places and stuff like that, because I feel like for my own self that I'm very sound sensitive. And so there was a long time that I lived, I work on a lot of computers and technology every day, in my other life. And there was a long time that I lived a muted life. but I didn't really know.
CC (Crystal) (00:02:07) - I didn't I didn't realize that I crafted my life to be muted with, you know, the phone and the computers and the sound and the televisions and things like that to just mute, mute, mute, mute. And I prefer silence in the car even. and so as I came to study sound vibrational, natural healing, all that kind of stuff, really, really starting intensely in 2012, what I found was, is that I'm very sensitive, actually, to sound, which I'm like, oh, makes sense now that I put it all together. Right. and, and since then, I have come to learn that acoustical sounds are actually the ones that really alter my state of consciousness consciousness very quickly. So have you ever experienced, you know, just like with acoustical sounds like either didgeridoos or drums or gongs or anything like that, that just, like, pops you out into some other kind of place.
Brenda (00:03:05) - Yes, absolutely. In fact, I think that's what drew me into music is that I could go to some of those places in ways that nobody could believe, even as a kid.
Brenda (00:03:16) - And I kept wondering, like, am I making this up? Is this in my imagination? But no, it it's it's real.
CC (Crystal) (00:03:24) - It is real. It's so real and entrainment and, you know, really just kind of finding the rhythm. But the body matching that rhythm and the brain particularly like matching that state. And then you just kind of like, you know, lose the grip on, I don't know if it's necessarily like the grip on the ego or like what that grip is, but in my mind, it actually feels like if I remember back to a drumming kind of journey that Rayna was holding for me. she was drumming, drumming, drumming, and we were just in a one on one session and using the drum. And then I couldn't, I couldn't stop moving, you know, and then if I just kind of like, if I surrendered even more into the movement of how my body was naturally wanting to go. And that was an agreement that my body and I were having on the inside, you know, like, you're okay.
CC (Crystal) (00:04:18) - And then, eventually it kind of came down to a hold that my mind was holding on to. And I saw that, like, kind of limitation. And it was really actually like a threshold or like a membrane that I got to. Experience directly. I couldn't see it, but I could feel it, and I could sense that wherever I was going to or meant to go through this journey, that, I had to kind of like release that threshold or allow that threshold to expand however you want to see that. and so sound is so pervasive when it comes to the body and the mind and where we can take our own selves, but also, like I wouldn't say, like where we could take our own selves out of. But also for me, it's kind of like where I can take myself into, you know, like how how deep into it can I actually go. And so voice, I have other stories about voice and sound too, but yeah, super powerful sound is a magnificent, changing healing tool.
Brenda (00:05:28) - Absolutely. I'm also sound sensitive in different ways, and that's what made me a good musician, is that I am very sensitive to sound, and I could even hear overtones and voices and and know how to correct that. And that was one facet where I was able to use the gift. But if there was dissonance, like something out of tune or something didn't sound quite right, or it wasn't an out of tune instrument, it's like nails on a chalkboard for my nervous system. And traffic sounds can also have that impact on my body where it's so jarring. Jarring. Yeah. And so I resonate with what you say about needing quiet. And so there are times when I can have sound around me, and there are times when I'm walking around with my AirPods and there's no sound in them. They're just there to create a sound barrier.
CC (Crystal) (00:06:21) - That's right. I understand that totally. I am not on an airplane without my noise canceling headphones. It's so exhausting. Actually. If I don't have them, I just feel completely wiped out without them.
Brenda (00:06:32) - Yeah, it's literally exhausting. So I have a client who was experiencing like she was going through her day. She was doing really well. And then by night, by the evening time, she was so cranky with her family and we discovered it was a sound sensitivity. And when she got some noise canceling headphones that she could wear even for ten minutes, at the end of the day, it changed her relationship with her kids.
CC (Crystal) (00:06:58) - I love that, yeah, more people need to know about it for sure.
Brenda (00:07:02) - Absolutely. So one of the things that you said that blew my mind, and I've quoted you multiple times since, is.
CC (Crystal) (00:07:10) - About.
Brenda (00:07:11) - About all of the ways that we have access to intuition.
CC (Crystal) (00:07:16) - Yes.
Brenda (00:07:17) - Could you talk a little bit about that?
CC (Crystal) (00:07:18) - Sure. So many ways. yes. Intuitive human is actually excavating how humans experience intuition through the body and what I call like the somatic somatic signaling system or the somatic signaling system, which is a way to say, like, you know, how does your arm light up? Or your heart space or your belly or your legs or your toe or your ears or your earlobe, like, how does it work for you? And it's across 18 different paths of intuition.
CC (Crystal) (00:07:50) - So we have six clear paths which people are most familiar with. And then we have six empath tracks and then we have six. What I'm calling like niche tracks, which they're somewhat related in some way or other to the clear tracks and the empath tracks, but they're also still just kind of sitting on their own, like telepathy. You know, some people could categorize that into clear cognizance because the mental kind of strength, mental knowing, but we're actually defining the experience of telepathy to be more present time happening right now, where clear cognizance would be like something some knowing from the past or some knowing from the future that's not yet in motion. Which is also another distinction between maybe somebody who's a dreamer and can dream about something like Already in Motion. So we're kind of associating those. It's a six, six, six, so there's 18 different tracks of the intuitions altogether. And then being able to associate the feeling based experience of intuition into those tracks, as well as tying in energy psychology, your energetic blueprint or imprint, if you will, like.
CC (Crystal) (00:09:04) - How do you carry yourself during the day? Where is the energy stuck or built up or flowing or loose and things of that nature? So it's quite fascinating.
Brenda (00:09:12) - It is so for the listener who has heard of the Claire's, but it doesn't know what they are. Can you remind us what the six Claire's are?
CC (Crystal) (00:09:19) - Yes. Let me see if I can remember them all. So, Claire, cognizance is the mental knowing. Claire. Sentience is the feeling based. Knowing Claire audience is the hearing base. Knowing. And I need my fingers because I'm only like, Claire chatting with you. Claire. Goose dance is the taste. You can actually taste things and I can talk about all these as we need. Claire, aliens is the smelling. And some people call that something different. They could call it Claire Aliens Alliance or Claire Olfactory, which that's also another familiar term for the smelling. And then which one did I miss? Clairvoyance. Is that six? Now that's six. Six. So that's the seeing.
CC (Crystal) (00:10:02) - So the easy way to remember that is it's our five senses.
Brenda (00:10:05) - Plus knowing I love it I love it. And I have a belief that we all have access to all of these if we learn to open those channels. Is that accurate?
CC (Crystal) (00:10:18) - That is the popular belief. Yes. And I am in agreement with that. So at the end of every single interview that I do, for people who are experiencing intuition in a really impactful, highly shifting way that they cannot refuse that something just happened. And it's intuition and it basically like wakes them up to themselves and to live a greater life. I always ask at the end of those interviews, do you feel like intuition is reserved for special magical people? Or can anybody do it, be it or have it? And so, so far most everybody says yes. Anybody can do it, have it or be it.
Brenda (00:10:57) - I love it. The one that I have not developed yet is taste okay.
CC (Crystal) (00:11:02) - Yeah. Yeah. So taste is taste and smell so far and from the research that I've done are the least frequent of them all and I don't, I haven't quite figured out what that's about yet.
CC (Crystal) (00:11:14) - But that's also why, you know, I'm doing this work as well as to kind of you know, find these trends and patterns because the engineer side of me can't help herself. I must understand more, across the all the tracks, but, yes, the smelling and the tasting are the least frequent. And I've even interviewed people who don't have, like, they weren't born with the sense, not even just like post-Covid or something like it went away. They just weren't born with the sense of smelling or tasting, but yet they have a gift in that area of smelling or tasting, which is kind of like, you know, I have a deficiency in hearing, but yet I can actually hear in the sixth sense, right? I have clear audience. I can hear like I have. I mean, there was a message that said intuitive human will be the work you do in the world. And it was just like somebody was talking to me and I was like, who's that? You know? And so anyways, so it kind of does seem like wherever our deficiencies are, then that could be the gateway of the intuition.
CC (Crystal) (00:12:16) - So if people keep that in mind, that could be something new and interesting to explore.
Brenda (00:12:21) - Yeah, that could be really interesting. So let's talk about the six empathic tracks. What are those six? Did I say that correctly?
CC (Crystal) (00:12:30) - Empath. Yeah okay. You can say like you are empathic. Right. That's kind of like the actionable word of it. but Empath Tracks is kind of what we call them. let me see what the. Okay. So the empath tracks, there are many. Right. So I'm like, okay, which ones are we focused on. And so we are focused on there's physical I'm going to count again physical empath, emotional empathic. There's a land based empath which is also called geomagnetic or geomancy. And then okay let me write them down. So physical emotional geomagnetic. And then there's plant. So fauna and flora one is one of those is land. And then down to 234. For. Then there's two more. Geomagnetic. That's location. Oh my gosh. One second.
CC (Crystal) (00:13:33) - Cause. Yeah, I'm going to look it up because I don't want to mess it up. And then I'll tell you the niche tracks too. Okay, cool. Let me just whip on over to my Energy Awareness Academy page. Beautiful. I'm like, which ones did I choose again? Okay. yes. Animals. The fauna. Okay, so here we go. So we can just take it from the top. Perfect.
Brenda (00:14:07) - Give myself a little signal.
CC (Crystal) (00:14:09) - We want a clap. Sure. And action. So, the six empath tracks that we are tracking for Intuitive Human are the physical empath an emotional impact, an animal communicator, animal empath. And the plants, which is flora, animals, fauna if you want to know. And then medical empath right. So medical intuition basically as well as geomagnetic. So the geomagnetic is a land based kind of empath. And do you want me to go through examples of kind of what they all mean? Because people I think are less familiar with what each one of those means? I think they.
Brenda (00:14:49) - Are. Yeah. Let's talk just briefly about about each of those, because I think that there are more people, more clients coming into my world that have one of those empathic abilities that and they're sort of shocked that it's it's actually an ability. They thought it was a liability.
CC (Crystal) (00:15:06) - Right? I love that, yes. Yes, exactly. Let's empower each other. Yes. And I kind of see these empath tracks as, as an umbrella. Right. Like this is your overarching method of and style, if you will, of your intuitive personality. Right. And within that umbrella, you have the colors that kind of come up underneath it. Maybe you have 2 or 3 kind of Claire's like you're a seer, you can hear things and you can taste things, but generally you're going to get the emotional kind of context of what's happening in the space first, and then you kind of cue in and focus, right? Like your camera's kind of coming into focus more on like which of those pathways is lighting up for you.
CC (Crystal) (00:15:49) - And this the same is true for like the niche tracks as well. I think those fall under the empathic umbrellas as well. so physical empath I am physical empath. Hello. Me too. Excellent. Nice to meet you. And what does that even mean? so for me, it means that when I walk into a space, I can tell if somebody has a headache. But why? Because I can feel their headache. I didn't have a headache a second before I entered a new space. And now I can notice that I have a headache, and I'm like, well, is that mine? I learned to ask that question.
Brenda (00:16:26) - Me too. And it was almost by accident. I was like, because I was like, this doesn't make any sense. I'm in the room, I have a headache. I'm out of the room. I don't write in the room. I have a headache. Is that actually is it even mine?
CC (Crystal) (00:16:37) - Put your body in. You take your body. Yeah. Put your body in then.
CC (Crystal) (00:16:42) - Yes. Exactly.
Brenda (00:16:43) - Yeah.
CC (Crystal) (00:16:45) - Yeah. So that's the thing. So with the physical empath or the emotional empath is like when you are engaged in a new space, it's how do those things change? You know, do you now have a pain in your foot if you're a physical empath that wasn't there a second ago? And I had to learn for myself to to take a baseline and kind of prepare myself, actually, if I'm going to walk into a space, check in with myself, ground around ground and shield, if you will, and then, you know, now enter the space intently and consciously and then recognize, you know, maybe 30s in maybe two minutes in what's here, who am I, what's not mine? And, you know, keep checking. Keep checking.
Brenda (00:17:30) - Yeah, exactly. And be curious. I went into a dance competition this weekend and I walked in feeling great, and I got in there and I was like, I'm limping, why am I limping? And it was not mine.
Brenda (00:17:42) - It was not my ankle pain.
CC (Crystal) (00:17:44) - It's so weird. Yes, I know it always surprises me. I'm like, gosh, this is so weird. Like, why did that happen? And even when really powerful intuitive experiences, I'm like, wow, that was really wild. Like, I don't get it. but also I get it, you know, like, I get it more so. Yes. And dancing actually is so fascinating being a physical and I imagine being an emotional empath too, but a physical empath when and partner dancing, when you're connected with somebody else, it does not matter the gender, the sex, the like, whatever the body tones that you're connected with, you are in their field. They're totally in your field and you're just like, whoa. Like so much information coming in it, it is really powerful.
Brenda (00:18:26) - It's been very powerful. It's been really, really good for me to understand masculine and feminine energy.
CC (Crystal) (00:18:33) - We could go on days for that. Yes we could. Maybe.
CC (Crystal) (00:18:35) - Maybe if there's time, we'll come back. Exactly. Multiple episodes. so that's a little bit about the physical empath. The emotional empath is somebody who, you know, is like massive caregiver usually in the space, like massive mama bear in the space, Papa bear in the space, binary bear in the space, whatever that. You know, they're the caregivers, basically, and they can tell across the way less of a physical impression, but more on the spectrum of emotions. Like who sad in the room, who's angry and hiding it, who's, you know, hungry and doesn't feel like they can say anything. You know who who just feels like either like, totally squashed or totally like, open and, you know, accessible to the world and all that kind of stuff. So an emotional impact is more non-linear. I would also say a physical empath is more structured in nature, which is just another framework that you can use to understand, you know, logically or, left brain versus right brain kind of abilities and stuff.
CC (Crystal) (00:19:40) - So emotional will be more of the right brain. And then the animal empath is somebody who I mean, basically it's like the animal's mouth is moving, you know, like they they understand the animal. and it could be particular animals or it could be, you know, the animal kingdom, but it is usually, you know, like, oh, I'm in touch with. I don't know, Wildcats like actual lions and stuff like that. Not domestic cats. it could be. I knew somebody in Mexico who was definitely, you know, totally, like, tapped into as an animal empath to wildcats. Panthers specifically. so that was fascinating from my perspective and my viewpoint of like, oh, how do you communicate? How does that work? You know, how do you know what they're thinking? How do they tell you? Does it like flashes of information? Is it actually like, you know, if we're thinking of that, like umbrella and all the players kind of fit under the umbrella, are you like hearing them talk to you? Does it sound like a real voice or are you having images and they're communicating through images because there's definitely people, who, you know, get the impressions through images and stuff like that.
CC (Crystal) (00:20:51) - So, that's a little bit about the animal. And then the plants, the plants would be. Like the tree kind of talking. I actually had a tree encounter one time and and you guys, like I do not do drugs or plant medicine. I don't drink alcohol, I don't smoke, I'm a sober, clean living chick. And for sure, for sure this tree was like, hey, come here.
Brenda (00:21:20) - Yeah, I've got something to tell you. Yeah, I.
CC (Crystal) (00:21:22) - Know, I was like, what? What? And nobody was around. And I was like, come on! Like, no, you're not talking to me. And then it was like, come here. And I was like, okay. And I mean, that's even brave, right? To also like, notice like you're not actually crazy. You have a sound mind, you have a sound body, you are kind of being talked to by this plant. And somehow some way, that's how my filter was, is like, hey, can you come here? And so anyways, so we had this conversation and it was amazing.
CC (Crystal) (00:22:01) - You know, that's a whole nother story. but that would be like kind of plant communication. and of course, you know, they have all these devices and stuff where you can attach to the plant. Speaking of sound, where you can hear the, the tones of the plant, which is also kind of interesting. Fascinating. I have many questions about that. but then the last two empath tracks are medical intuitive, which I think is a little bit of a branch off of physical, to be honest with you, because I feel like, you know, there's information there with the physical body and somehow I feel it differently like that. The medical knows like that there's, you know, like sickness and disease and where a physical empath is less specific.
Brenda (00:22:46) - For me, the physical empath is something that I feel I can feel it in my body when the somebody else is having a symptom. And with the medical, I see it so I can see and and it's not like I can see through a body, but I can see an organ that is a different color than the rest of the organs.
CC (Crystal) (00:23:05) - Interesting.
Brenda (00:23:06) - Yeah, interesting. Or it scares people a little bit too. So I, you know, I learned not to talk about it very much when I was a kid.
CC (Crystal) (00:23:14) - Oh, well, talk to me all you want about it. I think it's fascinating. Well, I say interesting because I'm just like. Yeah, like I wonder, you know, if people who are physical empaths and medical empaths. Because I don't think everybody is both either. I don't think you can just be one and not the other. and in the particular ways that you're talking about that you have the different, you know, perspectives, like you see this one, but you feel this one. and, you know, really like how all that works. I wouldn't say that I'm necessarily a medical intuitive, but I can definitely just on like, Flash View, somebody comes into my field, you know, I just kind of like, lay this blueprint of structural stability on top of them somehow. And it happens like lightning speed.
CC (Crystal) (00:23:58) - And I'm like, oh, like left knees out right shoulder, you know, ear or something like that. And it's just like this influx of structural accuracy or something like that. That's against the blueprint, meaning the blueprint that is perfection, right? Of how the body could be or should be.
Brenda (00:24:17) - Yeah. How does mine come in? I don't know that there's a blueprint, although there must be a blueprint because I'm seeing a different shape or color so that I must be measuring against the blueprint. I'm gonna have to slow it down the next time. The next time I try.
CC (Crystal) (00:24:31) - Right. Yeah. Yeah, it'll be fun. It'll be fun. I love that stuff. And then the last empath is the geomagnetic, the land based empath. And the best use case I think I have for that is to be able to know something about the location that you need to be. and it's, and it's like the same idea that you could never know this information without it just being known to you intuitively.
CC (Crystal) (00:25:02) - you didn't research it. You can't like discern it just by looking around, you know, things like that. It's just, you know, something about this place, this location on this planet and maybe other locations out, you know, in the universe or universes. And so, somebody that I interviewed one time had had a geomagnetic experience where they would have these visions of this, you know, European based place. And so we got into her experience and basically it was like she had this vision like, you know, way before having landed in this place that just kind of like doo doo doo doo, you know, everything orchestrated her to be there. And then all of a sudden she's like, whoa, you know, I already had this vision that I would be here doing this thing and in this mode, and now, you know, it's lived out. But it wasn't a dream, and it wasn't a daydream, but it was a more like knowing exactly of this place, this location in Europe and that being, like, very alive in her system.
CC (Crystal) (00:26:02) - And then she ended up going there and it was just just like, you know, it was like putting a key in a lock, basically.
Brenda (00:26:07) - So cool.
CC (Crystal) (00:26:09) - Yeah.
Brenda (00:26:09) - Yeah. Okay. That's amazing. So we've done the six players, we've done the six empathic tracks. And then you said they're I think you call them niche tracks.
CC (Crystal) (00:26:18) - Niche. Yes. Okay. Yes. so the niche tracks basically, you know, once again, it's those tracks that are so still powerful and impactful and they're not quite, you know, any of the six players. They're not necessarily the empaths because those are kind of more broad. So the niche tracks that we are tracking our dreams super important. Many dreamers in the world, and dreams are different than clairvoyance because of many things actually. Then I was like, should I go there? No, no, no, we'll go back. And then, the next one is like, I kind of lumped together like sound vibration frequency, because they're not the same, but they're, you know.
Brenda (00:27:03) - Relatable.
CC (Crystal) (00:27:04) - Yeah, yeah. And then telepathy. We already mentioned that. And how that's different. I think mostly based on time, meaning present time versus past or future and then channeling mediumship, which I think they're definitely nuanced differences even between those two. But again, with the family thing and they are popular, right? These are also the more popular experiences too, that don't fall into the other two categories. And then the other one that I just feel like is so fascinating and so like intuitively linked in life changing are the. Three different kinds of death experiences. So we have near death experience. We have a fear death experience. And then we have a share death experience. Oh, I'm.
Brenda (00:27:52) - Not familiar with shared death experience.
CC (Crystal) (00:27:55) - Shared death experience would be like if somebody was near you and they were dying, and you somehow experience everything that they experienced. But you didn't die.
Brenda (00:28:08) - Okay. That makes sense.
CC (Crystal) (00:28:10) - And and however that you know happens. Fascinating. and then fear death is that you're, you think that you are actually going to die like maybe the plane's going down or something like that.
CC (Crystal) (00:28:21) - So, you know, all these, experiences come online and then near-death, experience are similar, but fear death is one. And again, these are nuances, right? Because I get into that. the fear death is like, oh, I'm afraid I'm going to die in the near death is would be like, for example, if you are an operating table and you actually, you know, your heart stopped beating, right? But then you came back. So I feel like that there's, you know, definitely like nuances because you're in the table, maybe you are having a fear death experience, but actually like maybe you're in the anesthesia and all that kind of stuff that and you like textbook kind of die and then you come back. I think that that's different than if I'm going down in a plane.
Brenda (00:29:09) - Yeah, I would agree. So from your research and I want to hear more about your research, because I want people to be able to find you and follow you and learn from you. in your research, what percentage of people have these abilities?
CC (Crystal) (00:29:24) - Well, what I've noticed is that it's a culturally appropriate.
CC (Crystal) (00:29:32) - If you kind of grow up in a culture that allows and accepts that you have these abilities. So if we're talking, you know, the Latin cultures are like more open to those experience. And I actually lived in Mexico for three, three years, full time. so that was a wonderful learning and exposure to that culture and experience of intuition and everything. and but when we talked about the United States, right, the culture here in the United States and, you know, our roots, I won't get into the religious necessarily roots. But, you know, we don't actually grow up with that exposure as much. And we've, you know, kind of been programmed to come out of that exposure. So I actually feel like, for the United States focus, we don't have as much permission that we could have that many parts of the world do have. Now, I'm not so sure about Europe, you know. but definitely Latin cultures, Asian cultures, you know, accept it. And I would love actually to go around the world and have the experience of interviewing all kinds of people all over the world with, with this kind of stuff.
CC (Crystal) (00:30:46) - And before Covid, I had that plan. I was going to London, I was going to Italy. I was going to, you know, plant myself over in New Zealand and interview some of those cultures as well, just to kind of get that feel for like, how are they experiencing intuition in these tracks or more are other ones more prevalent for them, etc., etc. and just really be able to kind of open up this work and go deep kind of worldwide and then bring it back.
Brenda (00:31:11) - That's fascinating. I hope that you get a chance to do that.
CC (Crystal) (00:31:14) - Thank you. Thank you.
Brenda (00:31:17) - Yeah. That's amazing. And from from my experience working with people around the world and traveling, I would agree with what you're saying, that that it is not as permissible in the United States unless unless you're a medium or a psychic or you're giving tarot card readings or something like that. And so I feel like that's only one tiny slice of the pie.
CC (Crystal) (00:31:40) - Exactly.
Brenda (00:31:41) - And that there are so many people out there with abilities that they just need someone to train and teach.
Brenda (00:31:47) - And that's part of my mission in the world, is to help those people learn to harness their gifts.
CC (Crystal) (00:31:53) - Yes, yes. And just, you know, being able to recognize how it's speaking. So I feel like, you know, the conversation of intuition is age old, right? Like this is not a new territory, but the way that people are necessarily experiencing them could be more broad, right? It could be more broad meaning like accessible and available to people to say like, hey, this person. And that's kind of how I grew up. My YouTube channel and stuff is like, hey, if I want to learn about clairvoyance and how people are experiencing vision, let me listen to this, this and this and this and this episode, because they're talking about clairvoyance, and they're not just talking about clairvoyance in the sense of of vague kind of concept. Right? We're talking about clairvoyance in like, you know, slow it down. Let's get into the details of it. And yes, my episodes are like 25 minutes.
CC (Crystal) (00:32:45) - Maybe some of them are 35 minutes, but it's because we are actually recalling the experience. And to do that, you got to get into state. You know, you have to shift your mind. Kind of like that threshold thing I was talking about in the beginning, to be able to get back into that state to reference like how that was happening for you. And, you know, time stops in those places. Like, it's really kind of tough to describe when you have a really powerful experience. And for somebody to be able to share that sacred space. Right. It's also very private, very sacred. And, you know, there's a there's a trust building and, you know, there's a lot of human dynamics happening in these interviews, too, to even be able to, you know, be vulnerable in these ways to share these stories.
Brenda (00:33:35) - That's amazing. What is your YouTube channel?
CC (Crystal) (00:33:38) - YouTube channel is intuitive human.
Brenda (00:33:40) - All right. And so I'll put the link to that in the show notes as well so people can go check it out.
Brenda (00:33:45) - Because, you know, I think the thing that I, I have noticed and, and I'm going to reveal a bias and I know that it's a bias and, and I don't know if that makes it better or worse, but I, I feel like in the United States that overall society does not want us thinking for ourselves, and that if we were to really tap into our intuition, into our inner knowing and do the things that are right for us, it might be trickier to govern the way that we are governed and to educate the where we are educated. And so, you know, I feel like I'm a little bit of a disruptor doing the things that I'm doing, and I'm okay with that. but, you know, I just feel like if people can tap into their own intuition, they live so much richer, fulfilled lives. Because when they tap into their intuition, they're doing the things that are right for them.
CC (Crystal) (00:34:44) - Yes. And that's kind of one of the things that I think is I know it inherently, you know, it inherently, as you know, people living lives intuitively and really valuing that aspect that I have found from a marketing perspective and like reaching people who are not quite on the same boat yet.
CC (Crystal) (00:35:05) - Right, who value intuition in the same way, is really being able to put into language. Right. That matters. And that that is relatable and accessible, like why this is so important where, you know, I was 25 when I had my first experience and I haven't even looked back like it completely turned me upside down, inside out, all the way around and changed exactly who I thought I was into, who I'm meant to be. And to be able to actually like quantify what does that mean in a level of popular satisfaction we could say is hard to do actually, you know, so if I can, if I can from a marketing message and like, oh how do I get people to respond. That intuitive human is important and everybody really actually needs it. It's at least in this country, the United States, that. It's, it's definitely difficult to put the put the context in there for why they need that, except for the the most, deepest level of satisfaction when you were in orchestration with the universe, right.
CC (Crystal) (00:36:21) - Like you were plugged into the universal program that you could never imagine all the things that come for you when you were tapped in instead of like, what you think you you should be doing, which this is the programming that we do, right?
Brenda (00:36:38) - Right. You have to know all the steps before you can even take one is the programming and the universe works as here's one. Have fun. I'm going to show you the next one when you're ready.
CC (Crystal) (00:36:48) - And guess what? It's just your perfect right size too. All you have to do is step.
Brenda (00:36:53) - That's it, that's it. Yeah, but it's so scary for people. And you know what? I get caught in it too, where I know what the next step to take is. But that human part of me doesn't see any more steps beyond that. And so sometimes I'm like, oh, this feels this feels away. Should I really leap? Right?
CC (Crystal) (00:37:12) - Yeah. And I remember in my, my energy psychology training that that was the it was really interesting because that was the, I guess the most shy step that I was like, what if I'm wrong?
(00:37:27) - You know.
CC (Crystal) (00:37:28) - When I was working with people. So for me, because I like to, you know, be accurate, I have some precision in my makeup. but for me, it was like, well, the impressions, right? You step on that first little lily pad there because it shows up for you in the fog.
(00:37:48) - Right.
CC (Crystal) (00:37:49) - The fog of life. The fog of, like, working with people, the fog of, you know, making a decision on your business, like whatever it is. which also sounds, you know, very straightforward, but also it's risky. Like, you don't know what's around that lily pad. You know what I'm saying? Like, we're in Florida right now, and there could be a gator there. We don't know. But it's really like being able, in that context of working with somebody, meaning like energy healing or intuitive whatever, that, you notice something in the space.
(00:38:19) - And.
CC (Crystal) (00:38:19) - You get to recognize that that thing showed up and it's like the onion, right? You're kind of peeling the onion layer.
CC (Crystal) (00:38:27) - Oh, I see you. Will you show me more? That's right. And it does like pretty naturally it does once you kind of name what's in the space and what's alive. And that's the piece I really it took me years, actually, to understand and really get in my body that if I just was able to honor what was being shown to me, but with my words or with my actions, like one time I was in a session and the impression that I was getting, I don't even know how I got it. It wasn't like a picture. It was more like a feeling. And it was just as like, do this. Never, ever in my life have I done that. You know, and I'm like, okay, I'll do that. Even though I have no understanding and no basis of reference for it. I did it. And then that actually led into, for this being that it was something that they used to have done when they were like a baby, baby, baby.
CC (Crystal) (00:39:25) - And then that brought on all this grief and all this pain. And, you know, all this stuff came because I honored what was alive in the space.
Brenda (00:39:33) - That's right. It takes so much trust in ourselves and trust in the energy that's coming through. And I had to learn it when I was being trained to be an Oracle card reader. And so I was practicing what they called the bluff method, meaning if it comes in your mind, you have to spit it out. You don't get to hold on to anything. You don't get to decide what what the clients get to hear. And so I practiced it. And, you know, sometimes it hit, sometimes it didn't. But it they would always come back if it didn't hit and say, oh, I didn't know it at the time, but this thing happened. I was listening to a recording from 2016 on my phone this week from a psychic medium who had done a reading for me, and I had forgotten that I recorded it. And at the time I remember thinking, not all of this hits, but I know it will.
Brenda (00:40:27) - I just don't know when. Well, guess what? The day that it hit was this week.
(00:40:33) - I was listening.
Brenda (00:40:34) - To all of it going, oh my gosh, everything was accurate. Everything. It just took a few years to fall into place.
CC (Crystal) (00:40:43) - Yeah, yeah, that's so beautiful. I do think that people, have like people who are channels or who can see, right, mediumship or, kind of prophets to, if you will, people who can actually see like real seers into the future, whatever that I think that, you know, speaking of time, that doesn't really exist. But I had a business psychic that I was working with for a little while, and he was very good is very good. And, his predictions would be about 12 to 18 months in the future.
(00:41:13) - You know,
CC (Crystal) (00:41:15) - Just far enough that I was like, what's this dude talking about? You know? But I already felt him the first three seconds, you know, on the phone with me, the very, very first time that we connected.
CC (Crystal) (00:41:25) - And I felt him in my system already, and I was like, oh, where are we going now? So I knew he was working with something and for sure. Yeah. As it worked, I worked with him for about five years and kind of around the 2016 range, and for sure he was consistently about 12 to 18 months in advance of like real time right now that I thought was really fascinating. So I have a curiosity, many hypotheses, if you will, of wondering like, oh, people, you know, people who can predict things like that and do they see them in motion and stuff like that, but like, you know, are there people who can only see about like six months from now and other people are like five years from now, like Nostradamus, you know, like all that kind of stuff. Like what the.
(00:42:08) - It's amazing.
Brenda (00:42:09) - So if somebody is looking like, let's say somebody doesn't necessarily trust their own intuitive abilities and they want to work with somebody who has intuitive abilities, what kinds of things do you find? Mark someone as having high integrity, authenticity, and trustworthiness?
CC (Crystal) (00:42:32) - Okay.
CC (Crystal) (00:42:33) - High integrity, authenticity and trustworthiness. I mean, I like the, what do they call that medical thing? The the spiral.
(00:42:46) - Medical.
CC (Crystal) (00:42:47) - Man? I think so, yeah. It's like, do no harm. Right? So the ones who have that center of do no harm and heart for service, I would say are. Of the lines of integrity and trustworthiness and service oriented nature. That would be in the helpful mode.
(00:43:15) - I love that.
CC (Crystal) (00:43:15) - Not. Not necessarily. You know, there's not a desperation, right? Like a hungry ness. And you can feel that if you pay attention. And everybody has felt this. Everybody if you're a live human, you have felt hunger, right? There is a desperation in hunger. And I love my beautiful friend in Boulder, who I have been so many years. You know, kind of we dance with the with the nuances in experience and the human experience. So it's like, you know, we've kind of dissected like, from a capacity or energetic capacity and a frequency based perspective, like what does desire feel like? And then what does like sensuality feel like? And then what does hunger feel like? And how closely related are they? But also how distinct are they.
CC (Crystal) (00:44:19) - And how do you experience it. How do I experience it. And you know things like that. And then other people, you know the collective experience as an overall and I think there's generally an overt generalization of experience that is not true for everybody.
(00:44:36) - I agree that that that's.
CC (Crystal) (00:44:38) - Why I want to do this work to be like, well, how do you see, sense, feel, taste, hear, whatever. And then how does the other person, how's the other person? And then now there's like, you know. Maybe there's 50 ways people actually experience vision. And what are those 50. And it's not just limited to that, because the things that we think we know we become closed off to. So there's always constant inquiry, always constant exploration about how does the seeing vision work, how does the feeling sense work. And then also you know, the combinations of any of those. Don't get me excited because I'll keep talking.
Brenda (00:45:20) - This is amazing. Yeah. So you know it's so interesting to me because I when I was a kid I had a lot of ability, a lot of these empathic abilities.
Brenda (00:45:31) - I had most of the players and I turned it into people pleasing because I could see that it scared people. And so I instead of ever having a conversation around it, I would just do or say what I knew or felt they needed, and it wasn't until I was in my 30s that I realized these are actually abilities. If I maintain my own sovereignty, which required some nervous system healing and and inner child healing and all those things. And so my big moment came, you know, like probably I was 36 or 37 and was like, whoa, this is all here for us. If we're willing to just get curious and be still. Yes. And I'm wondering. Is. I mean, for me, sometimes things will drop in. Even if I'm not still they'll they'll just drop in because they're that strong. But what's the correlation between being in stillness and being in quiet and accessing our intuitive gifts?
CC (Crystal) (00:46:41) - Excellent question. I think. Well, a few things. Number one, just because stillness works for me, I cannot assume that stillness works for everybody.
CC (Crystal) (00:46:59) - Because my frequency is kind of like low and wide, you know, I'm like the grounded person in the room. I am playful and, you know, a little jokey, but I'm the grounded one, and I kind of am just, like, pretty even keeled, you know, I can get excitable, but even my friends are like, CC, are you excited? And I'm like, yeah. And they're like, well, you don't look excited. I'm like, I'm freaking hearts. I'm about to jump out of my chest. I'm excited, you know? But because I'm not so actionable, right? they don't really understand that. I'm excited. So I feel like maybe stillness isn't actually right for everybody. It is for me, and I prefer that. But, just like, you know, I know ADHD people in my life, that stillness, they can't handle it, you know, and they operate on a really tight, high frequency. Right? Which I'm just like, oh my.
CC (Crystal) (00:47:55) - Like, I love you so much. And I can't, you know, I can't be with that all the time. You know, I need to have a break because I gotta get with my low, wide thing. And so I feel like, Having access to the path or road or pipes or whatever you want to call them of. Intuition can be different for people who have different makeups, actually. And so for some people, it's in stillness, and maybe for half the people it's in stillness, something like that. But then for the other half of the people, it's in like movement and it's in action and it's in, you know, like having all kinds of information happening all at once. And they are just masterful at like, you know, putting it where it needs to be. so from my perspective, I have to say, I don't know exactly how other people access it. I know exactly how I access it and other people who may be similar to me in energetic and intuitive gifts probably operate in the same operandi, right? The the modus operandi.
CC (Crystal) (00:49:03) - But. Other people who are, you know, those faster kind of higher frequencies. It's like, oh, how does it work for you? And I want to understand that more. And then people who are, you know, the animal empaths that, you know, maybe they're in between, they're not so wide and slow and they're not super, super tight. There's somewhere else on the frequency spectrum, right? And it's like, oh, well, do they need moderate stillness you know. And you know kind of like that. So it's like I feel like we all do it differently. And I totally honor that in everybody. And I'm so curious. Exactly. For sure like hey how does it work for you. And and if they don't know then what I love helping them do is figure it out. I don't know either, but I have coaching, I have methods, I have questions, I have inquiry, I have analytical skills, I have, you know, ways to open you up to learn and discover.
CC (Crystal) (00:50:05) - Like, that's actually what I love doing. Because when I got into this work, I was like, man, do I want to be like a healer or something, you know? And so I studied all this stuff and then I was like, oh, I don't, I don't think, I don't think I can handle that, actually, you know, because I get really sad when I'm working with somebody who's like in a super I can feel all their stuff and I'm just like, whoa. Like, that's too much, like too much trauma information that, you know, yes, I had to go through my own healing journey and everything. And I have hosted, you know, retreats with hundreds of people and supported them in group healing and individual healing. You know, I've done all of that and super informed about how that works. And also like, no, that's not the actually the work that I want to do in the world. I want to help people wake up to their intuition.
(00:50:57) - I love.
Brenda (00:50:58) - Everything about how it.
(00:50:59) - Works.
Brenda (00:50:59) - Everything about this. So I've noticed for me that there's certain certain kinds of things that I can access through stillness. But a lot of what I access is in my movement. So I'm very frequently moving my hands. I'm very frequently. Yeah. Kinesthetic. I'm, you know, rocking back and forth most of the time. Sitting in a room for a day is like torture for me.
(00:51:25) - Totally.
CC (Crystal) (00:51:26) - I know I hear you, I hear you, Danny Epstein has his, what is it? Concept behavior. And, he's got three. What is his stuff? Concept ones. That one's a neutral. One's a, like a power amplifier, and one's a drain. Okay. And it's basically like, do you need to think about it? Do you need to act on it? So thinking is knowing acting. And then what's the other one?
Brenda (00:51:53) - Would it be like a movement based something.
CC (Crystal) (00:51:56) - Well, that would be action okay. Yep. Because I'm action also.
CC (Crystal) (00:52:02) - I think let me write it down. Hold on thinking because I'm like, is that the same as knowing? And then action oriented, which is behavior. I haven't thought about his stuff in a little while. While, Thinking. Knowing. Action. Almighty God, it's like one. You have a script, one you have a plan. And maybe, like planner, I could probably just explain it. I don't remember what he calls it, but basically it's like for me, I'm action oriented first. Like, I don't need a plan. If I just go do it, I will be informed, you know, my body will tell me, like, I got to just hit it and go, but I also kind of neutral. I stay in a strategy, like a plan. And then if I have to sit and think about it all the time, I will be immobilized.
Brenda (00:52:56) - Oh, like I feel. I feel the the room closing in on me when you just talk about planning it.
(00:53:02) - Yeah, I.
CC (Crystal) (00:53:04) - You're not a planner.
(00:53:05) - I'm the same.
Brenda (00:53:06) - Way. I'm like, let's just go, let's go do and we'll figure it out as we go. And we'll have like a base plan, like what city we're in. Right? That that can be the base plan guidelines.
CC (Crystal) (00:53:16) - Loose.
Brenda (00:53:17) - Loose guidelines. But please do not give me an itinerary with an hour by hour playbook.
(00:53:23) - Right.
CC (Crystal) (00:53:24) - That's awesome. Yeah. So I think it's it's like concept prime. and then action or behavior prime and, you know, one's a prime, one's a drain and one's a neutral. And then there's like the planning one. And so if I, if you just think about it, that's the concept one, I suck at that. I can't like if I just think about something, I get nowhere fast. That's not my thing. And then if I just get up and go do it, I'll totally figure it out. Just like even sometimes with some of the work that I do, I'm looking at this problem and I'm like, And I'm just thinking about it and I'm like, I got nothing.
CC (Crystal) (00:54:01) - And so I open up a spreadsheet and I start typing, and then everything lays out in like two seconds flat, you know, because for me, I stick like in the strategy and having some kind of like structure. I think it might be called structure. That's the one. So behavior prime structure prime or concept prime. Which one are you. Prime. Which one are you neutral and which one is a drain. So that's actually really helpful. So your structure drain. Yeah. Don't give her a plan. Your all your behavior prime and your concept. If you have the general idea you're good to go. That's just kind of hang out. Yeah.
Brenda (00:54:34) - If somebody else wants to plan it and think about it and do all that detail stuff I'm okay. Like that's fine with me. I may not do it with you but.
(00:54:43) - But right.
Brenda (00:54:44) - But it's fine for me but for me to do it. Yeah.
(00:54:47) - Oh no I can, I can I want.
Brenda (00:54:50) - To I admire people who can.
Brenda (00:54:52) - And I have some good friends who are that kind of personality. And it's really nice to have them in my life because they'll remind me, like, Brenda, slow down. You don't have any plan yet. And I'm like, oh, I guess not.
CC (Crystal) (00:55:06) - Some of us don't need a plan.
(00:55:12) - That's right, that's right. Yeah. Awesome.
Brenda (00:55:14) - Where can people find you?
CC (Crystal) (00:55:16) - Well, these days I'm living in Florida, but you never know where else I might live. But online, you can find me on Facebook as my name, Crystal Clenney. I'm also on Facebook as intuitive human. We have a community there as well. And then, I'm on Instagram, which is operable, but it's not my main one. So mostly Facebook. And then of course, anytime we get the, the interviews, they're out on YouTube as well. And so we are finishing up right now. I think we're on 15 out of 20. So excited. Post-production. On the last round of interviews we did in San Miguel de Allende in Mexico.
CC (Crystal) (00:55:54) - So our our interviews with our intuitive humans living their life intuitively and sharing their experiences about how intuition works for them.
Brenda (00:56:03) - Amazing, amazing. I'll put all those links in the show notes. And before we close, I just have one last question. What is one thing you either did or did not do that brought you to your yes filled life?
CC (Crystal) (00:56:20) - Okay, so the biggest thing that I did that brought me to my yes filled life was when I had the sporadic awakening experience at age 25. I went after that like there was no stopping me. I basically came that happened. I was living in Florida. I grew up here in Florida. and I was living here at the time on a business trip that happened on the business trip in Atlanta. I came back to Florida two months. I was out two months, only to just kind of, you know, figure out what was happening and where I was going. And I actually just returned only two years ago. So I was gone for like 20 years after that.
CC (Crystal) (00:57:01) - It was awesome.
(00:57:02) - Amazing.
Brenda (00:57:04) - Thank you, thank you, thank you for being here today. I really appreciate this conversation, and I can't wait to have you back where we can talk more about all these things, and then the masculine and feminine stuff that might.
(00:57:16) - Be, oh my God, they.
CC (Crystal) (00:57:17) - Absolutely. And moms intuition, dads intuition. Like I'm here for it. Let's have those conversations for sure. That's wonderful. And thank you very much for hosting this podcast and have me on here. And I'm very excited for what's next.
Brenda (00:57:31) - Me too. Thank you so much.
